Can we use PS1 & (who else?) WISE colors to identify distant halo giants,
using PS1 to weed-out proper motions?
We want tip-of-the-RGB stars that are bright enough for good follow-up, i.e. m_r<19.5,
which should also provide good PM constraints.
What are the candidate source densities?
Things to be checked:
-- to what distance do we reach with such constraints
-- what IR photometry coverage do we have and how useful are these colors
-- what PM do we expect?
-- probably use either galaxy or Besancon models to explore
Sonntag, 28. Dezember 2014
Sonntag, 7. Dezember 2014
Value-added information in the APOGEE survey to get stellar ages
This issue came up in the context off what Gaia and Apogee synergies could hold, and in particular on the question of whether Apogee should change its targeting strategy or observation sequence to get better age information.
The two avenues I have pursued are:
-Observations and targeting of stars on the sub giant-branch with Apogee
-Repeat observations of giants within 2 parsecs, to compliment astrometric binary orbit solutions with two epoch velocities; A good orbit solution would yield a direct dynamical estimate of the giant mass, thereby constraining its age.
Next actions:
HWR should do estimates over holiday break, so as to present initial results at Seattle, Jan 9, 2015.
Define directions a low latitude
Look up APOGEE target selection criteria
get Besancon models for such criteria
estimate dynamical orbit distances and parallax accuracies
The two avenues I have pursued are:
-Observations and targeting of stars on the sub giant-branch with Apogee
-Repeat observations of giants within 2 parsecs, to compliment astrometric binary orbit solutions with two epoch velocities; A good orbit solution would yield a direct dynamical estimate of the giant mass, thereby constraining its age.
Next actions:
HWR should do estimates over holiday break, so as to present initial results at Seattle, Jan 9, 2015.
Define directions a low latitude
Look up APOGEE target selection criteria
get Besancon models for such criteria
estimate dynamical orbit distances and parallax accuracies
Mittwoch, 19. November 2014
Hypervelocity stars in PS1
Reminded by http://arxiv.org/abs/1411.5022
(which is not immediately applicable): we should check
for high-velocity stars towards the bulge....
Possible next steps are as follows:
Devise an LSD quest that finds candidates. Possible selection criteria could be:
-- within 30° off the bulge
-- at a photometric distance consistent with the bulge
-- certain number of epochs with good photometry
A well-measured proper motion that is consistent with three epochs and
implies a velocity above 300 km per second.
(which is not immediately applicable): we should check
for high-velocity stars towards the bulge....
Possible next steps are as follows:
Devise an LSD quest that finds candidates. Possible selection criteria could be:
-- within 30° off the bulge
-- at a photometric distance consistent with the bulge
-- certain number of epochs with good photometry
A well-measured proper motion that is consistent with three epochs and
implies a velocity above 300 km per second.
Donnerstag, 7. August 2014
Cepheid in PS1
These are some notes on finding Cepheids in the Galactic disk as a tracer of the younger (<0.5Gyr)
using PS1 (following an ad hoc lunch discussion with Zeljko). Is there something new to be done?
What is known? Literature points towards a catalog by Berdnikov et al (2000,
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2000A%26AS..143..211B) with 500 Cepheids in the Galaxy. [Note: M31 has about 1500-2000 known Cepheids: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1301.6170v1.pdf]
Reading that Berdnikov paper, I could not gleam anything about the "election function" that led to this catalog. The recent thesis by Richard Anderson (Geneva, 2013) has a nice summary.
using PS1 (following an ad hoc lunch discussion with Zeljko). Is there something new to be done?
from Richard Anderson's (2013) thesis |
What is known? Literature points towards a catalog by Berdnikov et al (2000,
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2000A%26AS..143..211B) with 500 Cepheids in the Galaxy. [Note: M31 has about 1500-2000 known Cepheids: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1301.6170v1.pdf]
Reading that Berdnikov paper, I could not gleam anything about the "election function" that led to this catalog. The recent thesis by Richard Anderson (Geneva, 2013) has a nice summary.
This is the distribution of the "known" Galactic Cepheids in apparent mean Bmag vs P[days]
|
Who knows what selection function led to this distribution in the X - Y (kpc) spatial distribution... Is that dust?. |
For periods of 5 days, their absolute V-band magnitude (presumably de-reddened) should be -3.4.
This means at a distance of 5 kpc, they should be "easy" for PS1 at <m_g>=18 for 8 mag of visual extinction....
Things to do:
- look at the light curves of known Cepheids in PS1
from Richard Anderson's thesis |
Peter Yoachim has devised a set of (multi-color) template light curves.
- look at the (bizarre) Wesenheit reddening-free abs. mags. Questions: e.g. at what phase (phase-averaged?) are those corrective colors calculated.?
This dereddened magnitude W leads to a far better PLR. |
- see how Cepheids show up in a structure-function plot
Input from Laurent Eyer (who is one of the variability Gurus for Gaia), who wrote on that
topic earlier (in a slightly obscure place):
Gaia should be able to detect 9000 Cepheids; I see few reasons that Gaia can identify many
Cepheids that PS1 can find; so, the potential for 5000 new Galactic disk Cepheids from PS1 compared to 500 in the "state of the art catalog" now?!?
Here's the communication with Laurent [this site does not accept pdf's with a permalink]:
Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2014
MAPs and scale lengths with APOGEE RC *'s
Had conversation with Bovy what the trial and tribulations might be to
do MAP scale lengths using the RC stars from APOGEE:
simplest version:
-- focus on apocenter quadrant (bearable reddening)
-- each star in the RC catalog has a distance and a reddening attached to it.
-- to the extent that RC *'s are standard candles, and enter the sample down
to the apparent magnitude limit, the selection function/volume issue
should be analogous to the unreddened case, except for exp(-tau_H)/D^2
-- focus on stars at +-4 degrees ftp, the Galactic plane --> don't care about scale-height.
simplest science question, what is R_exp([Fe/H] | [a/Fe]~0)?
is it flat for the metal poor stars?
do MAP scale lengths using the RC stars from APOGEE:
simplest version:
-- focus on apocenter quadrant (bearable reddening)
-- each star in the RC catalog has a distance and a reddening attached to it.
-- to the extent that RC *'s are standard candles, and enter the sample down
to the apparent magnitude limit, the selection function/volume issue
should be analogous to the unreddened case, except for exp(-tau_H)/D^2
-- focus on stars at +-4 degrees ftp, the Galactic plane --> don't care about scale-height.
simplest science question, what is R_exp([Fe/H] | [a/Fe]~0)?
is it flat for the metal poor stars?
Montag, 5. Mai 2014
3D-HST Notes; May 2014
The 3D HST proposal talked a lot about environment dependence of galaxy properties, but nobody has done anything with it, nor seem they eager to do so. I have started to do a little bit of reading up on the practicalities. There is a whole bunch of papers recently that discuss and compare different environment definitions, e.g. Muldrew et al (2012) and Skibba et al (2012). It looks to me that the mark (by stellar mass, compactness, etc..) correlation function is the most sensible way to go, at least Skibba claims it to be so.
I am now combing the literature for comments (solutions) on two specific issues, relevant for 3D-HST:
-- field size (typically 5-ish MPC transverse)
-- grism redshift accuracy: 750 km/s for emission line galaxies, 1500 km/s for absorption line galaxies (m<23); this us squarely between the photo-z surveys and the spectroscopic surveys.
It seems that the PRIMUS folks, in a -- at first glance very nice paper Skibba et al (2014) -- have gone a long way of working out this regime. They have, however, far larger sample sizes and larger (angular) fields. I still haven't found an explicit treatment of field-edges; perhaps the randomization takes care of it.
Basic method of redshift distortions is worked out in Fisher et al (1994).
Also: I don't understand why still "estimators" are used for correlation functions, marked or not,
used. I would presume that any parameterized model for a correlation function (power-law with r0 and gamma) should make a prediction for p(r_p, π ), which then brings you to likelihood approaches. Why is that not done?
Post discussion lessons:
-- perhaps the simplest and first thing to try is to ask, whether indeed -- at a given mass -- quiescent galaxies ase more clustered than SF ones. How to do this: look at the quiescence-marked correlation, using the unmarked correlation as the "random" (D. Wake's suggestion).
I am now combing the literature for comments (solutions) on two specific issues, relevant for 3D-HST:
-- field size (typically 5-ish MPC transverse)
-- grism redshift accuracy: 750 km/s for emission line galaxies, 1500 km/s for absorption line galaxies (m<23); this us squarely between the photo-z surveys and the spectroscopic surveys.
It seems that the PRIMUS folks, in a -- at first glance very nice paper Skibba et al (2014) -- have gone a long way of working out this regime. They have, however, far larger sample sizes and larger (angular) fields. I still haven't found an explicit treatment of field-edges; perhaps the randomization takes care of it.
Basic method of redshift distortions is worked out in Fisher et al (1994).
Also: I don't understand why still "estimators" are used for correlation functions, marked or not,
used. I would presume that any parameterized model for a correlation function (power-law with r0 and gamma) should make a prediction for p(r_p, π ), which then brings you to likelihood approaches. Why is that not done?
Post discussion lessons:
-- perhaps the simplest and first thing to try is to ask, whether indeed -- at a given mass -- quiescent galaxies ase more clustered than SF ones. How to do this: look at the quiescence-marked correlation, using the unmarked correlation as the "random" (D. Wake's suggestion).
Samstag, 19. April 2014
post Calistoga
Project ideas not to drop:
-- high spatial resolution Y-band spectra of luminous ellipticals (Conroy)
-- binary population with Nidever;
work out giant ages from giant masses in binaries (Gaia & APOGEE)
-- testing PS1 RR Lyrae in dSph in the MW
-- clarify wide-field spectroscopy telescope (Bernstein)
-- high spatial resolution Y-band spectra of luminous ellipticals (Conroy)
-- binary population with Nidever;
work out giant ages from giant masses in binaries (Gaia & APOGEE)
-- testing PS1 RR Lyrae in dSph in the MW
-- clarify wide-field spectroscopy telescope (Bernstein)
Donnerstag, 10. April 2014
Notes on the "shallow" JWST NIRSPEC survey of 9000 galaxies
Goal: mini-SDSS at z~2-4
Science case: Arjen's ESO large proposal, but now at z~2-4
2 settings R~1000 & R~1000
S/N goal per resolution element 20
Basic targeting m_AB(integrated, @H or IRAC3.6)<24.5; z>2
[and add the ones that are IRAC-only detections…]
according to Tracy Beck: we get ~150 galaxies per MSA setting [CHECK using APT]
thought: 1x 1000 sec @ 1MSA (or 2x500 sec dithered with 2 slits; is that needed)
thought 36 pointings --> 36x150 galaxies --> 5500 galaxies
Field: from CANDELS with ALMA access; 2 different fields;
within a field, contiguous.
what are the overhead advantages and cosmic variance drawbacks of different
MSA settings at identical pointing
To be done: what is the S/N distribution, given actual CANDELS size/slitloss parameters.
any orient constraints: major axis.
Draft needs to be done by May 9
Science case: Arjen's ESO large proposal, but now at z~2-4
2 settings R~1000 & R~1000
S/N goal per resolution element 20
Basic targeting m_AB(integrated, @H or IRAC3.6)<24.5; z>2
[and add the ones that are IRAC-only detections…]
according to Tracy Beck: we get ~150 galaxies per MSA setting [CHECK using APT]
thought: 1x 1000 sec @ 1MSA (or 2x500 sec dithered with 2 slits; is that needed)
thought 36 pointings --> 36x150 galaxies --> 5500 galaxies
Field: from CANDELS with ALMA access; 2 different fields;
within a field, contiguous.
what are the overhead advantages and cosmic variance drawbacks of different
MSA settings at identical pointing
To be done: what is the S/N distribution, given actual CANDELS size/slitloss parameters.
any orient constraints: major axis.
Draft needs to be done by May 9
Mittwoch, 2. April 2014
After the Oxberg meeting April 1-2
Two immediate homework's have arisen:
1) Hogg & Price-Wheelan will work through the known streams, and see what
feasable observational data are most potential-constraining; then the plan could be that
Brani organizes a coherent follow-up effort.
2) Discussion between Schönrich, Martig, Binney have arisen that it would be good
to have action-space diffusion coefficients from numerical/cosmological simulations.
Bovy and Roskar have a machinery that takes N-body simulations to an analytic potential
machinery, which then allows the Stäckel fudge, and ultimately to calculate
the actions for a particle with (x,v) in an N-body simulation.
At a practical level, it needs to be cleared-up what these diffusion coefficients
depend on t,R,sigma?
The claim is that with p(J,age,[X/H] | t_now) one can get the diffusion history,
under the assumption of p(J,age,[X/H]) was very narrow at birth.
3) Needs to define paper scope with Nina
4) Need to define paper scope with Marie
1) Hogg & Price-Wheelan will work through the known streams, and see what
feasable observational data are most potential-constraining; then the plan could be that
Brani organizes a coherent follow-up effort.
2) Discussion between Schönrich, Martig, Binney have arisen that it would be good
to have action-space diffusion coefficients from numerical/cosmological simulations.
Bovy and Roskar have a machinery that takes N-body simulations to an analytic potential
machinery, which then allows the Stäckel fudge, and ultimately to calculate
the actions for a particle with (x,v) in an N-body simulation.
At a practical level, it needs to be cleared-up what these diffusion coefficients
depend on t,R,sigma?
The claim is that with p(J,age,[X/H] | t_now) one can get the diffusion history,
under the assumption of p(J,age,[X/H]) was very narrow at birth.
3) Needs to define paper scope with Nina
4) Need to define paper scope with Marie
Sonntag, 9. März 2014
getting to the Gaia mock Universe
Some notes on practicalities of getting to the A.Robin (?) mock Gaia Universe.
The basic stuff for my purpose is the gums.mw table,
described in http://dc.zah.uni-heidelberg.de/tableinfo/gums.mw
How to get to it:
what works: go to topcoat (download as needed)
and follow instructions in http://voparis-europlanet.obspm.fr/utilities/Tuto_TopCat.pdf
You don't get the file, but you can SQL-type query it.
You get 1.000.000 records easily, but I still have to figure out how
to get the whole file, e.g. as a binary fits.
Markus Demleitner at ARI is the person to talk to; here is what he advises:
The basic stuff for my purpose is the gums.mw table,
described in http://dc.zah.uni-heidelberg.de/tableinfo/gums.mw
How to get to it:
what works: go to topcoat (download as needed)
and follow instructions in http://voparis-europlanet.obspm.fr/utilities/Tuto_TopCat.pdf
You don't get the file, but you can SQL-type query it.
You get 1.000.000 records easily, but I still have to figure out how
to get the whole file, e.g. as a binary fits.
Markus Demleitner at ARI is the person to talk to; here is what he advises:
Uncheck "synchronuous"; this selects async operation, which lets you even change your location and IP and retrieve the result later; also, it gives you, by default, 3600 seconds of query time before timing out. magg<17.5 is still a large number of objects and hence a very large table (I'd expect several 1e8 rows), probably too big for TOPCAT to keep in memory or to handle directly (though it might be ready before the 3600 s timeout). You could use STILTS to stream things to your disk and select FITS binary output (see stilts tapquery); but it'd certainly be preferable if you gave some additional constraints to offload part of your computation to the server (note that you can also upload your own object lists). The server already has indices in place, quite some memory, etc., so it usually pays to let it do the heavy lifting and keep the tables you actually deal with of order 1e6 or maybe 1e7 rows.
I am now working on downloading the fits file directly,and do them with p. in subdir GaiaSims in Apogee.
Freitag, 7. März 2014
Dynamics of K or G dwarfs near the mid-plane
Some thoughts on how to serious is practice about the dynamical modeling
a la Bovy using G and K dwarfs near the galactic mid plane from the SEGUE scans.
1) query all G and K stars with b<30 & spectra in DR10
2) where do we get a/Fe from?
3) get the proper motions both from SDSS and from PS1
4) this is the test-sample on which to compare the two proper motion estimates…
5) do we need to deredden individually?
a la Bovy using G and K dwarfs near the galactic mid plane from the SEGUE scans.
1) query all G and K stars with b<30 & spectra in DR10
2) where do we get a/Fe from?
3) get the proper motions both from SDSS and from PS1
4) this is the test-sample on which to compare the two proper motion estimates…
5) do we need to deredden individually?
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